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How Real is the Threat to Government Pensions?
Controversial call on The Ric Edelman Show highlights debate over the future of public pensionsA caller to Edelman’s nationally syndicated radio program sparked the debate. Mary Ellen, a 51-year-old, has little money in savings. But because she works for a city government, she can retire immediately thanks to a pension that will pay her $46,000 for life annually plus provide full health care benefits for the rest of her life. “Given the status of our nation’s economy, Mary Ellen’s situation raises important questions,” noted Ric Edelman. “Is it still appropriate to provide full retirement benefits before a worker reaches age 66? Or should we honor the promises made to these workers, and acknowledge the sacrifices they’ve made by engaging in what are often dangerous public service occupations?
Read another listener’s response:
Dear Ric,
I very much respect your opinions on financial information. I have partially read one of your books, wish I had more time to read and occasionally listen to your Saturday show when I can.
I am 63 and like many of us, I am uncertain about our future from a financial standpoint due to our national debt. Fortunately I work for what I believe is one of the best run companies in the US where at this point we are valued as employees. We still have a defined benefit pension and they match $ for $ on the first 6% in our 401 K. I will not have medical in retirement as I left for 17 months but came back and when I retire at 66 ½ I will have a total of 37 years with the company. Despite this I am concerned.
However, I take exception to the discussion you had with a caller (lady) from I believe Long island who is 51 and works for the county or city. She wanted your opinion on whether she should retire at 51 because she could immediately start collecting 60% of her salary as pension and will have full healthcare benefits for life. You asked her a bunch of questions regarding what other assets she had, whether she owned her own home etc. I believe the conclusion you made was it looked pretty could to you and she should go for it.
I thought about what you said and have been fuming ever since. Not because your advice wasn’t correct for her situation and not because your Saturday show would discuss what you may really think. Are you confused by me right now?
What I am fuming about and I guess what your show on Saturday would not get in to is some of the obvious facts from this lady and the overall issues with towns, municipalities, cities, counties, states and our federal government. Here goes:
I do not expect you to respond or discuss my comment on your show. Just wanted you to know my thoughts.
Thank you.
I very much respect your opinions on financial information. I have partially read one of your books, wish I had more time to read and occasionally listen to your Saturday show when I can.
I am 63 and like many of us, I am uncertain about our future from a financial standpoint due to our national debt. Fortunately I work for what I believe is one of the best run companies in the US where at this point we are valued as employees. We still have a defined benefit pension and they match $ for $ on the first 6% in our 401 K. I will not have medical in retirement as I left for 17 months but came back and when I retire at 66 ½ I will have a total of 37 years with the company. Despite this I am concerned.
However, I take exception to the discussion you had with a caller (lady) from I believe Long island who is 51 and works for the county or city. She wanted your opinion on whether she should retire at 51 because she could immediately start collecting 60% of her salary as pension and will have full healthcare benefits for life. You asked her a bunch of questions regarding what other assets she had, whether she owned her own home etc. I believe the conclusion you made was it looked pretty could to you and she should go for it.
I thought about what you said and have been fuming ever since. Not because your advice wasn’t correct for her situation and not because your Saturday show would discuss what you may really think. Are you confused by me right now?
What I am fuming about and I guess what your show on Saturday would not get in to is some of the obvious facts from this lady and the overall issues with towns, municipalities, cities, counties, states and our federal government. Here goes:
- She is 51 and will start collecting 60% of salary ($50,000 a year) as pension and get full healthcare immediately. Must be nice. It is not her fault, it is the benefit.
- Her $50,000 a year pension means her salary now is around $83,000 ($50K divided by 60%). Her salary now isn’t too bad compared to many other 51 year olds.
- Keeping 1. and 2. in mind, you couldn’t comment on the fact unless she is police, fire or EMT, no governmental employees should start collecting full benefits for life at 51 when the rest of us cannot do it. All these governmental entities will never be able to keep these lavish benefits now or in the future. Who pays all of this, the taxpayers? And who will be the ones who will pay higher taxes so that these union and non-union governmental employees can continue to receive these benefits for life, yes us taxpayers.
I do not expect you to respond or discuss my comment on your show. Just wanted you to know my thoughts.
Thank you.
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